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  <description>&lt;p&gt;I started with taking a copy of my Braunchweig gown and a transfer of my &amp;#8220;german&amp;#8221; kirtle to make my two bodices.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;This is the Braunchweig copy as it is regionally close but also able to swing into the more dutch bodice shape.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;I did also keep the Mary of Hungary bodice in mind.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750068&quot; src=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=251%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=251%2C300 251w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=768%2C917 768w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=700%2C836 700w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=60%2C72 60w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=318%2C380 318w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?resize=400%2C478 400w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?w=1571 1571w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2155.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 251px) 100vw, 251px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750067&quot; src=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=218%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=218%2C300 218w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=768%2C1058 768w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=700%2C964 700w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=60%2C83 60w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=276%2C380 276w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?resize=400%2C551 400w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?w=1405 1405w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2154.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 218px) 100vw, 218px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750066&quot; src=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=206%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=206%2C300 206w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=768%2C1120 768w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=700%2C1021 700w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=60%2C88 60w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=261%2C380 261w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?resize=400%2C583 400w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?w=1477 1477w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2153.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 206px) 100vw, 206px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;How this works is the edge is on the grain so you have to smooth and stretch the fabric from there  under the arm and to the waist. So yes the waist is off the grain. This is how the Mary of Hungary gown works too- if the edge was taken off the grain you get stretch going around the neckline that needs to be stabilised.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The down side to this is it makes fitting the armscye a nightmade.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;But I kept going.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750069&quot; src=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=233%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=233%2C300 233w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=768%2C988 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=700%2C900 700w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=60%2C77 60w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=295%2C380 295w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?resize=400%2C515 400w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?w=1558 1558w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2156.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 233px) 100vw, 233px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ugh, look at how that now sits. Oh the back fits beautifully but where the excess fabric is moved to shows I needed a longer narrower back to be able to support this open neckline.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;So my options were to remake the back panel or put in a seam. I dislike putting seams in the CB of my German gear but I am also running out of this fabric!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750071&quot; src=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=241%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=241%2C300 241w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=768%2C957 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=700%2C872 700w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=60%2C75 60w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=305%2C380 305w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?resize=400%2C499 400w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2159.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 241px) 100vw, 241px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750072&quot; src=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=253%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=253%2C300 253w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=768%2C911 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=700%2C830 700w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=60%2C71 60w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=321%2C380 321w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?resize=400%2C474 400w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2160.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 253px) 100vw, 253px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;But it worked.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Then of course I had to copy the seam placement from one side to the other.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750073&quot; src=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=300%2C199&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=300%2C199 300w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=768%2C509 768w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=700%2C464 700w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=60%2C40 60w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=573%2C380 573w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?resize=400%2C265 400w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?w=1240 1240w, https://i1.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2164.jpg?w=1860 1860w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750074&quot; src=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=300%2C197&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=300%2C197 300w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=768%2C504 768w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=700%2C459 700w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=60%2C39 60w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=579%2C380 579w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?resize=400%2C262 400w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?w=1240 1240w, https://i2.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2166.jpg?w=1860 1860w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;Side back matching, and shoulder matching.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750075&quot; src=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=300%2C210&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=300%2C210 300w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=768%2C538 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=700%2C490 700w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=60%2C42 60w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=543%2C380 543w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?resize=400%2C280 400w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?w=1240 1240w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2167.jpg?w=1860 1860w&quot; sizes=&quot;(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;SIde front matching.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg&quot;&gt;&lt;img class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-1750076&quot; src=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=232%2C300&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; srcset=&quot;https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=232%2C300 232w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=768%2C992 768w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=700%2C905 700w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=60%2C78 60w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=294%2C380 294w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?resize=400%2C517 400w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?w=1348 1348w, https://i0.wp.com/www.arrayedindreams.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/sm_DSC_2169.jpg?w=1240 1240w&quot; 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sizes=&quot;(max-width: 221px) 100vw, 221px&quot; data-recalc-dims=&quot;1&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;The silk has almost no give! So I also also had to do a few tweaks on the form. I smoothed the left shoulder up and pushed the excess to fold over the shoulder seam.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;As can be seen the armscye is very tight in the front of the arm, this will be clipped but only after I have properly assembled the kirtle layer and have the support this gown needs.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;p&gt;So I may see if I can get the kirtle underneath already to fit the way I need it!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;https://www.dreamwidth.org/tools/commentcount?user=glittersweet&amp;ditemid=1804667&quot; width=&quot;30&quot; height=&quot;12&quot; alt=&quot;comment count unavailable&quot; style=&quot;vertical-align: middle;&quot;/&gt; comments</description>
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